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Indeed, 6732 not a CR model
The movement is missing its spacer ring, possibly because the dial doesn't properly fit the case. Speaking of that dial, I'm not sure if it was stolen from a CR or an actual fake production! Note the SWISS MADE at 6 o'clock. The case back s/n dates this part to 1968. FWIW, the seller had this to say; " I have no idea, I bought it as this condition and offer it for sell as is".
I always let the seller know of concerns before posting these alerts. Sometimes I don't know how to take their replies. Here is a recent conversation involving a large and well-known American dealer:
Me: The piece is labeled Vacheron Geneve and is a 19th century copy.
He: Yes thanks for spotting our oversight we did mention it was pre constantine but still it was listed improperly.
He again: B y the way , this is not a copy it is a watch made by Vacheron before he partnered with Constantine.
Me: Vacheron brothers pre-Constantin, did not sign their watches in that manner, are you suggesting that movement is pre-1819?
He: No of course not, Cesar and Charles both made watches, inexpensively during the 1870s, signed only Vacheron
certainly not good enough to be faked.Me: Although Cesar Constantin, Mme Veuve Cesar Constantin, then their son Charles Constantin were in charge of the Manufacture for the period mentioned, all watches were still properly signed Vacheron & Constantin (note: I also sent him pics of Charles and Cesar watch cuvettes, with full Vacheron & Constantin engraving).
He: Well now i am interested you learn something new every day in this amazing business after further research i will respond back.
Sounded very positive, however the seller continued to let the auction run until it ended, thankfully without bids.
Such a pity!
It breaks my heart because their are components to such sought after and loved VC watches in this Franken. :-(
Sorry guys, my initial comment was based on misreading "6732"
I thought it read "6782", which is the T-Bird. It still looks unusual for a CR with cal. 1072. Antiquorum's database shows two Ref 6732 watches which have cal 1072, but not the CR dial. Also the case back does not have "Chronomtre Royale" engraved.
Indeed, 6732 not a CR model
The movement is missing its spacer ring, possibly because the dial doesn't properly fit the case. Speaking of that dial, I'm not sure if it was stolen from a CR or an actual fake production! Note the SWISS MADE at 6 o'clock. The case back s/n dates this p...
that date wheel is painful to look at....
people go to some great lengths to try to make a buck. Bill
Heads-up re that vintage "Tropical" cloisonne watch...
Seller confirms the dial is not original to the watch, but apparently according to his friend is genuine dial. Bids currently over $15k.
