My New Historiques Chronograph

Jul 28, 2013,18:44 PM
 

The Internet is such a wonderful tool for watch collectors. Not only do we share our knowledge about watches, but it allows for a global marketplace. ThePuristS was the first place to have a dedicated Vacheron Constantin forum, and I came here right from the beginning to learn about VC watches, which had captured my attention. A decade ago it was hard to come by information on the brand, its history, and technical details about the watches. That is no longer the case.

In going public with watches in my collection, people know what I have, and every now and then I get asked privately if I am interested in selling a watch from my collection. This recently happened to me with respect to my Overseas Chronograph North American Edition.





Though I had not had the watch for a long time, and only for a very short time on the bracelet, an email came to me this month, asking if I would be willing to part with my Overseas. While this was sooner than I would have expected to part with it, I am always willing as it helps to make room for my next Vacheron Constantin (and there is always a next Vacheron!). We agreed to terms, and I had to scramble for a new VC (my vintage piece is with VC for service, and won’t be back on my wrist until late this year/early next year) to wear immediately.

And so the search began (on the internet as I don’t currently have the jones for a brand new watch). It ended quickly:





It made perfect sense: “trading” one limited edition white metal black dial chronograph for another limited edition, white metal, black dial chronograph, only tilting the feel of the watch towards dress from sport.

The Historiques Chronograph is iconic modern Vacheron Constantin, its design based on the important vintage reference 4178. There are five variations on the reference 47101 or 47111 design (the different numbers referring to slight differences in case design involving snap on or screw down case backs). It came in yellow gold with a silver dial, yellow gold with a black dial, platinum with a silver dial, platinum with a salmon dial, and finally, platinum with a black dial. This last one being marketed exclusively in Taiwan and made in only 25 units (though the watch is not marked as being limited). While the limited nature of this piece appealed to me, I probably would have considered on any of the platinum variations.

I had been an owner of the yellow gold Historiques with silver dial long ago. I liked that watch, but at that time I wasn’t often dressed in a suit, and the watch had a more formal quality with the gold hands and gold ring around the outer edge of the subdials. It bothered me ever so slightly. Platinum, of course, has a stealth quality that lends itself to working well in any outfit, which I appreciate. I finally have a good shot of the texture on the dial (the glare couldn’t be helped):





The calibre 1411 deserves all the praise it gets:





It is a dream to look at, and the winding and chronograph start/stop feel is superb.

What will be next for me when this watch finds itself in another home? I don’t know for sure, but I can see myself finally trying out the American 1921, which I have admired from afar for too long.  But who knows: something interesting might come up before then. The journey of collecting is such a blast, isn’t it? smile

Bill
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This one is a keeper, Bill. A GREAT and FINE watch. Superb.

 
 By: amanico : July 28th, 2013-21:27
But you know I am totally biased when it comes to Les Historiques Chronograph. Best, Nicolas

Thank you, Nicolas.....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:45
It is a great watch. Are you still waiting for a Mercator? :-) Bill

Unless this is the Mercator which is waiting for me. :)))

 
 By: amanico : July 30th, 2013-13:49
Basically, yes! ;) I found a Germany Enamel Cloisonné, but I was more after an " America "... Best, Bill. Nicolas

Black and white

 
 By: patrickh : July 28th, 2013-21:51
2 collectors and rare watches. Congratulations Bill. Enjoy wearing your new VC, Bill. Please post a/few wristshot(s) ;-))) Cheers, Patrickh

Marvelous catch Bill.

 
 By: Dje : July 28th, 2013-22:59
Hi Bill, This one is a great catch. I didn't even remember that black dial version. A little dressy Vacheron Constantin is hard to beat. Best Dje

Thanks Dje....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:48
I hope to see a VC back on your wrist in the near future. Bill

great dial texture...

 
 By: radekw : July 29th, 2013-02:30
Love the watch and its dial guilloche, may it only time happy moments for you! Sorry to hear the US Overseas had to go. But hey, a refreshed Overseas with a brand new movement is just around the corner, right? I'm betting the 260th anniversary of the mais... 

The new Overseas will certainly be a watch to consider...

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:50
I hope it is sooner in coming rather than later! I recall reading that VC is developing both a manual winding as well as an automatic chronograph.....I hope I can swing both in due time! Bill

Congratulations, Bill!

 
 By: yesjb : July 29th, 2013-03:25
A rare find indeed! And a real beauty too. Wear it in the best of health. Joseph

Thank you, Joseph....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:52
July has been a good month for watch acquisitions for us, hasn't it? :-) Bill

Wonderful watch

 
 By: hamish : July 29th, 2013-03:32
Bill Wonderful watch!!! Congratulations

Bill congratulations. A wonderful piece. When you get bored of

 
 By: kpk : July 29th, 2013-05:50
It please let me know. I might be interested.

Thank you, Kunal....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:53
I hope all is going well with you. Bill

Thanks for posting some nice new photos, Bill

 
 By: respo : July 29th, 2013-06:54
This is indeed a special watch, and by that I mean the Historiques Chronograph in any variation is special. This is one of the few instances when I love every variant -- every dial color and every metal. I could see someone collecting all variations of th... 

Yes.....I have to get together with you and Joe....

 
 By: WHL : July 29th, 2013-07:17
so we can take a platinum Historiques Chronograph trifecta photo! :-) Thank you for the kind words on the review and watch. I'm wearing it today so I'll try to get a proper wristshot. Bill

Dear Respo, I have just read your posting and like you,......

 
 By: Sandgroper : July 30th, 2013-04:45
I think! :) I could not have separated myself from the Overseas Chronograph US Edition as I think it is a special piece and beautiful at that too but, when it comes to The Historique Chronograph, the idea of my eyes not having the pleasure of admiring thi... 

Good question, Francois!

 
 By: respo : July 30th, 2013-06:57
What IS collecting? This is probably a good question to pose on the HoMe forum for broader discussion by the Purists. I would like to see and participate in such a discussion. For now, I will only say that in my time here on PuristS and since I have been ... 

An our collecting can change over time....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:44
there was a period where I had over two dozen VC in my collection! Now I am a serialist. I can't say how things might change in the future, though I do know they will be centered around VC. Bill

Bill I am very curious

 
 By: 4Js : July 30th, 2013-15:24
I would love to know the 24 pieces you collected. I value your thought process and what direction your collecting took you. Thanks Joe

I'll compile a list.....

 
 By: WHL : July 31st, 2013-06:48
and as many photos as I can find and make one or more threads about it. (I like now how the PuristSPro platform retains all photos now....but having changed computers and service providers since my early online days, I fear that some photos of watches fro... 

Thanks

 
 By: 4Js : July 31st, 2013-09:26
Even if photos lost,I would value what items you had Thanks Joe

Love this watch!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 29th, 2013-08:11
Bill as you probably know by now I am a sucker for traditional chronographs with beautiful horizontal coupling movements. Esp with white metal and black dial (like my Lange Dato and more recently Montblanc Villeret). Your VC historiques Chrono is one of t... 

Hi Robin.....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:56
By the numbers, I think your MB Villeret is more exclusive. :-) (FWIW, I was tempted by a platinum Villeret, serial 1, a few years ago that was in the NY boutique, though it was not a chronograph). Bill

Sweet watch Bill

 
 By: Tick Talk : July 29th, 2013-09:24
Lovely in platinum with black guilloche dial :-) The lugs give a wonderful presence. Have you ever compared the VC Lemania to Breguet's iteration? Just wondering if there is an appreciable difference.

I have yet to get the Breguet Chronograph in my hands...

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-08:59
to compare with the 1141. Bill

Stunning! Congrats on your new addition...

 
 By: Dino944 : July 29th, 2013-11:38
Hi Bill, I saw the yellow gold/ black dial version many years ago at our former local VC AD. It was a beautiful watch, but the black and platinum is really a step beyond that in terms of versatility and beauty. I love the textured dial. Congrats and I hop... 

Hi Dino....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-09:01
we certainly should try to get together before I part with his watch....it has been too long. I hope all is well with you and J. Bill

Hi Bill...

 
 By: Dino944 : July 30th, 2013-10:59
Yes, it has been too long. I stopped by a few months ago, but unfortunately you were out that day. I will definitely have to make it a point to come by while you still have that magnificent Historiques in your possession. Hope all is well with the family.... 

I wanted to be the first

 
 By: hewitgar : July 29th, 2013-14:27
to nominate myself for your new watch when it is time to go. But I came in second. Oh well...! I love the photo where you captured the dial texture. And of course, I have a gap in the collection for a platinum Chrono. I do hope you enjoy it, while you hav... 

I would have pegged you for the EP Malte Chronogrpah....

 
 By: WHL : July 29th, 2013-14:33
It would seem to suit your theme a little better. Have you sought one out? Bill

Yes, it might seem the right fit

 
 By: hewitgar : July 29th, 2013-14:39
between another couple, but somehow it is too close to the QP, so I am 'unlikely'... I am trying really hard to 'stay away' and stop looking for the next.... But it turns out it is really really hard and I am weak and feeble. Enjoy your new beauty. G

VC is making accomodations to the weak and feelble....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-09:02
by making watches that only need to wound up once every 14 days....allowing your strength to recover. Bill

Yeh, thanks for that, no need to

 
 By: hewitgar : July 30th, 2013-09:28
wind me up on a daily basis then! All the best! G

Oooooh Bill, what a beautiful Time Piece this is......

 
 By: Sandgroper : July 30th, 2013-03:43
Your picture of the guillochage on the dial is......to die for:) splendid. How on Earth, by Toutatis! Can you even contemplate of "perhaps" "in the future" having to separate yourself from "This Jewel" to get another piece?? In my opinion THIS IS one of t... 

Hi Francois....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-09:05
That someday will come because I'll want an uncluttered dial layout, or a different/new complication, or a movement I've never sampled before, etc.......the one thing about collecting is that there always has to be something new, whether by addition or by... 

Congratulations Bill

 
 By: cisco : July 30th, 2013-03:48
This is an awesome watch, the case is wonderful and this combination of metal and dial seems extremely pleasant. Enjoy your beauty ! Francois

That watch is a knock-out!

 
 By: maberlin : July 30th, 2013-05:13
I first saw a photo of that piece in Alex's wonderful article on VC Chronographs, and it was immediately went to the top of my list of all the versions of the 47101/47111. Congratulations on the upgrade!

Thank you, Michael....

 
 By: WHL : July 30th, 2013-09:06
I'll hope to see you the next time I can get down to NY. Bill